By Paul W Arnold
Exclusive: The cop-turned-author answers every question created by his shocking LA Weekly profile in regards to his investigation into the murder of Tupac Shakur.
With the steady stream of increasingly shocking new developments surrounding the still unsolved murders of Tupac Shakur and The Notorious B.I.G. over the last few months, one might mistakenly think their current calendar is emblazoned with the year 1997 instead of 2011.
Detective Greg Kading Names Whom He Believed Killed Tupac Shakur
HipHopDX: Can you clarify how you – as an L.A.P.D. detective – came to be investigating the Tupac murder case, which I understood to be the jurisdiction of Las Vegas Metro Police?
Greg Kading: What ended up happening during our investigation of [Notorious B.I.G’s] homicide – we were taking a very broad approach to it, we were gonna try to address all the different theories: whether it was Puffy Combs, whether it was the Southside Crips, whether it was the Nation Of Islam, whether it was the Bloods as retaliation [for Tupac’s murder]. We were looking at it from every different angle. … We’re thinking, Okay, maybe it was Puff behind Biggie’s murder, and if so it could’ve been the Southside Crips. There was this rumor going around that it was them because they never got paid for the [Tupac] murder. So there were all these theories going around.
Greg Kading: Yep. And the answer’s no.
Greg Kading: Nope.
Greg Kading: Nope.
Greg Kading: Well, you might have to ask the U.S. Attorney’s Office why they never charged him. I can’t answer that.
Greg Kading: It shouldn’t have.
Greg Kading: No. The only arrangement we had is what’s known as a proffer agreement, where he sits down and agrees to cooperate with us. We can’t use his own statements against him. That’s the arrangement. So, it doesn’t mean that he’s not gonna get charged in any cases that he talks about, all it means is that we won’t use his personal incriminating statements against himself. So that’s what he’s kind of guaranteed. But that comes with a caveat of its own: we will only not use his own words against him as long as anything else he tells us regarding that case or any other case is never proven to be untrue. In other words, if he lies, and we can prove he’s lied about anything, we then can use his confessions against himself. That’s the strongest motivation right there for him to be completely honest, regarding everything.
Greg Kading: Well … yep. I don’t wanna speculate too much on that. But yeah, I would agree with you, I don’t understand it myself.
Detective Kading's Theory On Why Tupac Shakur's Murder Was Never Solved
DX: What supporting evidence did you gather to confirm that Keffe D’s statements regarding Tupac’s murder were in fact truthful?
Greg Kading: Well, we read a couple other reports, both F.B.I. and – Well, first of all, I mean, obviously, you’ve got this extremely strong circumstantial case, just based on the fact that his nephew had gotten his ass kicked in the lobby [of the MGM Grand], and these are some legitimate gangsters. And so, it’s a pretty reasonable conclusion to draw that Orlando Anderson – Keffe D’s nephew – would’ve had the motivation to shoot Tupac.
Greg Kading: Absolutely not. There’s no evidence whatsoever that Biggie was there. There’s no evidence whatsoever in our entire investigation that Biggie knew anything about the conspiracy to murder Tupac. I think Biggie was really misaligned by that information, which was baseless.
Greg Kading: No, that has to be done through the proper channels. That has to go through the L.A.P.D.
Greg Kading: Well, no. And that’s kind of loaded language right there, because I didn’t steal anything. As an investigator, I’m privy to keep material of everything I do in my own investigation. I can’t keep any evidence, which is the big difference. Everything that I have copies of, the originals are on file in the L.A.P.D.’s case file. I simply have copies of my own investigative work.
Greg Kading: Yeah, there’s a guy named Terrence Brown. He went by the Crip gang moniker of “Bubble Up.” There was a guy named Deandre Smith. He just went by the name of “Dre.” There was Orlando “Baby Lane” Anderson. And of course, Duane “Keffe D” Davis.
Greg Kading: Based off of Keffe D’s testimony, as far as the number. Keffe says, “There’s four of us.” And the witnesses in Tupac’s entourage – I think it was Frank Alexander, I’m not sure, mentions the carload with two front seat and two backseat occupants.
Greg Kading: That’s correct.
Greg Kading: No, I was never able to verify that. Of course, Suge likes to claim that he still has a bullet in his head. But I think that’s just bravado, gangster-boasting. We believe that it was a superficial wound caused either by like a graze or by some lead or glass fragments. When bullets hit things you never know what’s gonna start flying. And it could’ve been just the jacketing of the bullet, it could’ve been a piece of metal from the door, it could’ve been some glass. So, don’t know what hit him, all I know is that it was superficial.
Greg Kading: Um … I know that’s out there. There’s that speculation. I truly don’t. I think that Tupac in the heat of that moment - when some guys are pulling up next to you [and] all of the sudden you see a gun come out the window, you are gonna instinctively begin to flex away from that. You’re gonna instinctively turn away from that and begin to try to move and protect yourself away from that. And I think that’s what the people were seeing, was him trying to get out of the immediate, point-blank range line of fire. And so I really think that’s what happened. And, more likely than not – and this is speculation – is that Tupac’s movements, and the way he reacted, did create a human shield and very likely protected Suge, although it was all unintentional.
Detective Kading Ties Orlando Anderson To Tupac Shakur's Murder
DX: Now the reason I had you clarify the number of shots, and just how all that went down, is because if this was indeed a hired hit they did it awful sloppily. I’m sure there were much cleaner ways to do this. Did Keffe explain why they did it this way?
Greg Kading: Yeah, it was in the heat of [the aftermath of] the beating. There was no intention whatsoever to go out to Las Vegas to carry out the murder plot. They went out there strictly to party and to watch the [Mike Tyson] fight. The beat-down of Orlando in the MGM, all that did was kick into gear something that had already been planned [but] that wasn’t supposed to take place then. Keffe D says they wanted to do it back in L.A.
Greg Kading: No, he didn’t. I doubt that he even had one. I mean, these are just gangsters, man. These aren’t professional hit-men. They’re not guys that put a lot of thought into this stuff. I mean, Orlando Anderson was known for shooting all over his neighborhood. It’s pretty random during these gang shootings and gang drive-bys. It’s definitely not The Bourne Ultimatum-type of stuff.
Greg Kading: No, we don’t have that information, at all. I don’t know that. That’s speculation. There’s a rumor out there like that, but we don’t know that. All we know is that Keffe D claims he never received any of the money. And, he asked Zip to go get the money, and then Keffe D was shortly [thereafter] arrested on that federal case that you mentioned earlier, which took him out of the picture for a minute. And so, once he was taken out of the picture, the debt, so to speak, just kind of got shelved. However, as you’ll read in the book, Keffe D heard from another source that he felt was reliable that half the money had been paid from Puffy to Zip, but Zip never delivered. The courier took off with the pizza.
Greg Kading: Well, he went to prison, so it’s kinda hard to pull that off from – well, I shouldn’t say that, because obviously [Suge] Knight did that. Um … I don’t know. I asked Keffe after he got out of prison if he had any contact [with Puff]. “No, I haven’t.” Keffe D just jumped right back up into his big drug distribution ring and was making money.
Greg Kading: Yeah, we did. We looked into that, and we didn’t find that to be a plausible theory. Not only after talking to Keffe D and having him deny it – It didn’t really pan out.
Greg Kading: Yeah, well, I mean as far as like when they do their heat-of-the-moment type stuff, or their drive-bys, they’re not coordinated and planned. And they don’t have this orchestrated thing.
Greg Kading: I’m telling this story because I believe it to be the truth. I believe it to be the best evidence out there right now. And, you know, I walked away from over a million dollars of earning potential with my career at the L.A.P.D. I left short. And I sacrificed a lot because I knew the story wasn’t gonna get told. This is not about capitalizing for me. This is a self-published book. I dumped [$30,000] into this project just to get here myself, and gave up on a large earning potential with the police department. This was an ethical conviction I had to do this, I believe it was the right thing, and if people can see that I’m coming at this from a very honest approach, it’ll give the book the credibility for people to believe it.